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Submitted on: 11/03/07 (Edited 05/21/08)

Description of Ultimatebet - Blacklisted - ROGUE: Ultimatebet has been Rogued and BLACKLISTED

UPDATE - If you have played for cash at UB and lost, you were most likley cheated. Please see Xhttp://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?p=4244804#post4244804 (you will need to copy and paste the link, without the starting X, into your browser.)

Ultimatebet is owned by the same person that owns Absolute Poker. Absolute Poker has been caught cheating players and lying about it.

No way you can trust to have a fair game at either Ultimatebet or Absolute Poker.

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Pit Boss Admin Usergroup: admin Joined: Jun 14, 2000 Location: around here somewhere Total Links: 228 Total Comments: 61 Trader Rating: 0 Rate this post:	12 of 25 people found this comment helpful Posted 03/10/08 - 10:10:05: #1 ULTIMATEBET INTERIM STATEMENT Contact: Press@ultimatebet.com Montreal, Canada (March 6, 2008) – UltimateBet (UB), one of the ten largest online poker cardrooms, today issued the following interim statement with respect to allegations of unfair play on its site. “On January 12, 2008, UltimateBet was alerted to allegations that a player with the online handle “NioNio” exhibited abnormally high winning statistics and was accused of having an unfair advantage during play. These allegations were made both directly to UltimateBet by concerned players and the KGC, and indirectly through several web forums. The allegations also included reports of suspicious activity concerning the deletion of the NioNio account and other accounts that may have been related to this scheme. “We immediately launched an extensive inquiry involving an independent third-party expert to review hundreds of thousands of hand histories, all of which were promptly locked down and made available to this expert. The initial findings of our third-party expert confirm that the NioNio account’s winning statistics were indeed abnormal, and we have expanded the investigation to look into whether an unfair advantage existed, how such a scheme might have been perpetrated, and whether additional accounts beyond those of NioNio were involved. “UltimateBet is in regular communications and contact with its regulatory authority, The Kahnawake Gaming Commission (KGC), and will continue to cooperate fully with that body. “UltimateBet is determined to complete a full and thorough investigation. We pride ourselves on providing a safe, secure playing environment for our customers. The investigation has proven to be extremely complex and, therefore, has been more extensive and taken much longer than initially expected. We continue to aggressively pursue the matter and will communicate the findings of our full investigation to our regulatory authority and to our customer base as soon as practicable.” *** Sounds good... However this just follows a pattern these shady folks at Ultimate Poker and Absolute poker have continued. Please remember that Ultimate Bet and Absolute Poker is owned by Joe Norton, the guy that set up ad was the former head of the Kahnawake Gaming Commission KGC (the KGC supposedly regulates and audits AP and UP). This UP/AP/KGC thing is such a scam, it is really hard to believe this is going on. The very best argument for online gaming regulation, I have seen is the AP/UB cheating scandal. I wonder how much more money these guys at the KGC and AP are going to steal before the powers that be pull their heads out of their asses and regulate online gaming in America. Edited by Pit Boss on 03/11/08 - 22:07:23 _____________________ I'm the Pit Boss here. You gotta problem, you talk to me.
Pit Boss Admin Usergroup: admin Joined: Jun 14, 2000 Location: around here somewhere Total Links: 228 Total Comments: 61 Trader Rating: 0 Rate this post:	29 of 40 people found this comment helpful Posted 03/11/08 - 22:11:17: #2 I have just been informed that UB has some major software glitches that have been used to cheat players. The main glitch seems to be that players are are able to log on to the UB poker client from more than one computer at the same time. _____________________ I'm the Pit Boss here. You gotta problem, you talk to me.
Pit Boss Admin Usergroup: admin Joined: Jun 14, 2000 Location: around here somewhere Total Links: 228 Total Comments: 61 Trader Rating: 0 Rate this post:	10 of 17 people found this comment helpful Posted 05/30/08 - 09:36:37: #3 ULTIMATEBET ISSUES STATEMENT REGARDING UNFAIR PLAY MONTREAL, CANADA (MAY 29, 2008) --- Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG ("Tokwiro"), proprietors of UltimateBet.com ("UltimateBet"), one of the world's largest online card rooms, today announced the results of its lengthy investigation into allegations of unfair play, which was triggered by concerns about an account named 'NioNio'. Tokwiro has worked diligently in cooperation with its regulatory body, the Kahnawake Gaming Commission ("KGC"), and with independent third-party experts to conduct a thorough investigation that included a comprehensive review of hand histories and game data, thorough analyses of software and network security, and audits of its security practices and procedures. The investigation has concluded that certain player accounts did in fact have an unfair advantage, and that these accounts targeted the highest limit games on the site. The individuals responsible were found to have worked for the previous ownership of UltimateBet prior to the sale of the business to Tokwiro in October 2006. Tokwiro is taking full responsibility for this situation and will immediately begin refunding UltimateBet customers for any losses that were incurred as a result of unfair play. The fraudulent activity was enabled by unauthorized software code that allowed the perpetrators to obtain hole card information during live play. The existence of this vulnerability was unknown to Tokwiro until February 2008 and existed prior to UltimateBet's acquisition by Tokwiro in October 2006. Our investigation has confirmed that the code was part of a legacy auditing system that was manipulated by the perpetrators. Gaming Associates, independent auditors hired by the KGC, have confirmed that the software code that provided the unfair advantage has been permanently removed. Throughout the investigation of this incident, Tokwiro's consistent priorities have been: 1. To permanently remove the ability to engage in unfair play; 2. To complete its investigation and come to a full understanding of what occurred; 3. To refund the affected customers; and 4. To implement measures that prevents future incidents. The Company said, "We would like to thank our customers for their patience, loyalty and support, as well as for their understanding that we are doing everything we can to correct this situation. The staff and management of UltimateBet are fully committed to providing a safe and secure environment for our players, and we want to assure customers of our unwavering resolve to monitor site security with every resource at our disposal." Investigation Timeline These are the key events in the course of the incident. * January 2008: UltimateBet is alerted to suspicions of unfair play on the part of the account "NioNio". Within 24 hours, UltimateBet contacts the KGC to provide formal notice that UltimateBet has initiated an investigation of the incident. UltimateBet subsequently forwarded a copy of all related data to the KGC. * January 2008: The "NioNio" account and related accounts are suspended pending further investigation. * February 2008: Preliminary findings indicate abnormally high winning statistics for the suspect accounts. After discussions with the KGC, UltimateBet engages third-party gaming experts to assist with the analysis. * February 2008: Investigators confirm that the suspect accounts are associated with individuals who had worked for UltimateBet under the previous ownership. * February 2008: UltimateBet discovers the unauthorized code that allowed the perpetrators to obtain hole card information during live play. The code was part of a legacy auditing system that was manipulated by the perpetrators of the fraud. * February 2008: UltimateBet immediately removes the unauthorized code and works with the KGC and with third-party auditors to verify that the security hole has been eliminated. * March 2008: Six player accounts are confirmed to have participated in this scheme. No accounts were deleted at any point, although some account names were changed multiple times. The following account names are known to have been used in the fraudulent activity: NioNio, Sleepless, NoPaddles, nvtease, flatbroke33, ilike2win, UtakeIt2, FlipFlop2, erick456, WhackMe44, RockStarLA, stoned2nite, monizzle, FireNTexas, HeadKase01, LetsPatttty, NYMobser, and WhoWhereWhen. * May 2008: The investigation confirms that the fraudulent activity took place from March 7, 2006 to December 3, 2007. * May 2008: Gaming Associates certifies that the software code that enabled unfair play was removed from UltimateBet servers in February of 2008. * May 2008: Customers affected by this incident are identified, and plans for corrective action are reviewed with the KGC. Corrective Actions Taken The following actions have been taken or are currently underway as a direct result of this investigation. * The security hole identified in UltimateBet's investigation has been permanently eliminated. * UltimateBet is establishing a state-of-the-art software Security Center that consolidates and greatly enhances existing security capabilities. The first release of the new Security Center focuses solely on the immediate detection of abnormal winnings. Gaming mathematicians, poker professionals, and security software developers have all contributed to the specifications for the new Security Center. * UltimateBet customers are no longer permitted to change account names unless they have suffered abuse in chat rooms. Requests for changes must be supported by proof of abuse and must be approved by the Chief Compliance Officer. * In addition to its existing security department, UltimateBet has established a new specialized Poker Security team of professionals dedicated to fraud prevention. * The refund process will begin immediately. The accounts associated with fraudulent activity did not use an unfair advantage in all play sessions. Regardless, UltimateBet is refunding all losses to these accounts. * Accounts related to the fraudulent activity have been disabled, and the individuals associated with those accounts permanently banned from the site. * UltimateBet has worked closely and transparently with its governing body, the KGC and its designated expert auditors, to determine exactly what happened, how it happened, and who was involved, and has taken action to prevent any possibility of this situation recurring. * Tokwiro is pursuing its legal options in regard to this incident. For further inquiries please contract press@ultimatebet.com _____________________ I'm the Pit Boss here. You gotta problem, you talk to me.
Pit Boss Admin Usergroup: admin Joined: Jun 14, 2000 Location: around here somewhere Total Links: 228 Total Comments: 61 Trader Rating: 0 Rate this post:	10 of 16 people found this comment helpful Posted 05/30/08 - 10:37:30: #4 The statement from the owners of Ultimate Bet “Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG ("Tokwiro") “ have issued the above statement dated May 29th, 2008. The statement from Tokwiro confirms that there has been cheating going on at Ultimate Bet from March 2006 until December 2007. I am uncertain just why Tokwiro claims the cheating stopped in December 2007 when, according to them, they did not discover nor remove the 'malicious code' until February 2008. Tokwiro also does not name the people doing the cheating, nor do they claim that the criminals have been turned over to law enforcement. All Tokwiro state is that the “Investigators confirm that the suspect accounts are associated with individuals who had worked for UltimateBet under the previous ownership.” and that “Accounts related to the fraudulent activity have been disabled, and the individuals associated with those accounts permanently banned from the site.”. Permanently banned from the site.... OMG... How horrible these criminals that have stolen millions are banned from the site... I wonder how long it will take them to open a new account... 3 to 5 minutes? Incase you can't tell, I am not impressed with Tokwiro's statement, attitude or actions in this matter. Tokwiro only stated what was known in most well informed poker circles. The accusations of both Absolute Poker (also owned by Tokwiro) and UltimateBet cheating have been floating around poker and gambling forums since 2005. The hard evidence of cheating started becoming public in January 2006, thanks to players. The amount of money stolen by these criminals must be the tens, if not hundreds of Millions of Dollars. Even if you believe the Tokwiro story that cheating was 'only' going on for just under two years (twenty-two months), the amount of money these un-named and un-numbered criminals must have stolen millions upon millions from the unwary players at UltimateBet. I would think that before Tokwiro and it's poker rooms can be called 'trusted' by the Poker Community at large, they need to come clean about who was doing the cheating and take steps to see the cheaters prosecuted in a court of law. Tokwiro also needs to be completely forthright in who was cheated, how much they were cheated out of and make public the amounts paid by Tokwiro to compensate players for the money stolen from them. _____________________ I'm the Pit Boss here. You gotta problem, you talk to me.
Guest Rate this post:	3 of 5 people found this comment helpful Posted 09/13/09 - 05:48:16: #5 http://www.kahnawake.com/gamingcommission/kgc0911... A link to an in depth internal report stating that cheating was occurring at Ultimate Bet.

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